From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:37:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83y4sskkto.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87k34qo4c1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54257C22.2000806@yandex.ru> <83iokato6x.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvf1dxha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2a5maib.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3ylruyg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412692645 25624 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2014 14:37:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen@xemacs.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 16:37:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVt5-00036y-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:37:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59235 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVt4-0006ZM-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42945) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVsx-0006ZA-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:37:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVst-0001hk-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:37163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVsn-0001el-Sh; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0ND200900WA1V700@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:32:07 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0ND20071JWDJGA30@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:32:07 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175072 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:03:37 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: eliz@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > Emacs normally recognizes UTF-8 text and decodes it. If some text > isn't proper UTF-8, it may use raw bytes for that text. But when does > it do this for text that can be decoded as UTF-8? I don't think > that ever happens. It could happen if the user instructed Emacs to decode the text as something else, like Latin-1. But then I think it's the user's responsibility.