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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com
Subject: Re: progmodes/project.el and search paths
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 19:16:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y4hpsobt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C22C57.9070307@yandex.ru>

> Cc: deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 18:31:35 +0300
> 
> On 08/05/2015 06:23 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > Again, sounds silly, given how most, if not all, modern build tools
> > work.
> 
> That is counter to my experience. The modern build tools work in a 
> variety of different ways.

You mean, some of them don't support specifying how to build
documentation?  Which ones?

> > But (shrug) not a catastrophe: the corresponding attribute will simply
> > be nil, or the command to build everything.
> 
> And I don't understand what you mean here.

An attribute can exist even if with some projects its value will be
nil or a trivial "build-all" command.  IOW, even if some projects
won't have any non-trivial value for this attribute, it's not an
argument against the attribute's existence.

> > IOW, I see no problem here, and no reasons to consider this unfit for
> > the API.
> 
> It's fit. As soon as we're sure someone is going to write a Lisp program 
> making use of this part of the API. And by "sure", I mean we have at 
> least a proof-of-concept patch for a non-trivial piece of functionality.

I don't think it's correct to wait for specific requests for every
single sub-feature, when developing infrastructure like this one.
Some basic traits should be supported just because they are basic,
before someone asks.

> > I don't think you have this luxury when you work on infrastructure.
> 
> I don't think anyone here has the authority to tell me what to spend 
> time on.

I didn't tell you anything except my views on this.

> > E.g., company.el is "not very interesting" for me, but I still try
> > very hard to fix every issue in the display engine that you or your
> > users report.
> 
> You don't work on adding new features to it, however.

Yes, I do.  But that's besides the point, isn't it?

> > Yes.  They are both no-brainers to have in the infrastructure that
> > AFAIU you are trying to provide.  It might even be much more useful to
> > a Lisp program that only cares about the manual of a project.
> 
> It makes sense to go for features with bigger impact first.

If this is just a matter of priority, I'm okay with whatever the
decision is.  I was under the impression that the mere need is being
questioned.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-05 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-02 13:52 progmodes/project.el and search paths Eric Ludlam
2015-08-02 17:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03  1:19   ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-03 16:16     ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-03 22:56       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-08 13:07       ` Nix
2015-08-09  5:18         ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-09 12:17           ` David Engster
2015-08-09 15:55             ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-10 11:29               ` David Engster
2015-08-10 16:43                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-12 10:10                   ` David Engster
2015-08-12 13:49                     ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-12 15:36                       ` David Engster
2015-08-13 11:53                         ` Nix
2015-08-13 12:05                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-14 11:52                             ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-14 22:30                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-15  0:48                                 ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-15  7:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-10 17:12             ` Nix
2015-08-03 22:47     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04 11:52       ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-04 16:09         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 13:49   ` David Engster
2015-08-03 14:09     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 14:27       ` David Engster
2015-08-03 15:13         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 21:35           ` David Engster
2015-08-03 23:21             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04  8:15               ` David Engster
2015-08-04 13:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-04 18:05                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-04 18:41                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04 19:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-04 19:40                         ` João Távora
2015-08-05  2:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-04 20:15                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05  2:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-05  6:18                             ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05 15:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-05 15:36                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05 16:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-05 16:45                                   ` David Engster
2015-08-05 22:17                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06  7:56                                     ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06  7:54                                   ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05  9:42                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05 15:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-05 15:31                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05 16:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-08-06  6:44                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06  7:43                               ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06 10:25                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06 14:27                                   ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06 23:16                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-07 14:10                                       ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-07 14:44                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 16:35         ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-03 16:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-03 21:07             ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-03 21:33               ` David Engster
2015-08-04  2:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-03 15:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-03 15:16         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-03 19:01             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 19:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-03 21:05                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04 11:48         ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-04 16:20           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 16:25     ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-03 21:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-03 22:15       ` David Engster
2015-08-03 22:50         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04  7:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-04  8:13           ` David Engster
2015-08-05 13:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-06 11:27               ` {Spam?} " Eric Ludlam
2015-08-06 23:10                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-07 11:18                   ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-07 11:43                     ` David Engster
2015-08-07 12:17                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-07 12:40                         ` David Engster
2015-08-07 12:54                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-07 12:08                     ` Alexis
2015-08-04  9:40           ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-04 17:43             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-04 19:49               ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-04 20:03                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05  6:02                   ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05  9:59                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06  7:25                       ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-07 14:21                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05  1:29   ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-11 20:01     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-12  0:49       ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-12  7:25         ` project terminology Stephen Leake
2015-08-12  9:28         ` progmodes/project.el and search paths Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-29  2:00     ` Dmitry Gutov

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