From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:02:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83y4fbrqhn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <87oag7hx0t.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444471357 12053 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2015 10:02:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 12:02:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqym-0001ST-QN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:02:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqym-0007TJ-0k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyj-0007TA-91 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyd-0006EA-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:43575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyd-0006Dj-OG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW0002000ATKC00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:01:34 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW0001SV16L5B30@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:01:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87oag7hx0t.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191108 Archived-At: > From: David Engster > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:51:14 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > And if anyone _really_ cares about supporting C/C++, they should be > > working with and on GCC's libcc1, > > Getting the AST is not a technical problem; libcc1 does not change > anything. We don't even know whether libcc1 provides any features useful for an IDE, including information that could be used fro completion. We also don't know what is the final verdict on having GCC emit tree information. I'd expect a person who is motivated to work on these features, if we have such a person among us, to be on top of those two issues, as well as many others. But I agree: it's not a technical problem. It's a problem of being motivated enough to overcome such obstacles.