From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:48:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83y49tsk7t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457408936 16005 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 03:48:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 03:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 04:48:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8dj-0004La-T2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:48:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60004 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8dj-00056n-Bj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:48:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8df-00056U-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:48:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8dc-0007jM-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:48:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8dc-0007jI-3r; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2203 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8db-0001z3-DE; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:48:47 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:59:02 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201115 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:59:02 -0500 > > > I'd like to open this up to discussion on emacs-devel, so that we hear from > > our other developers. What do you all think about ChangeLogs, and their value > > to you in your work on Emacs? > > I couldn't care less about ChangeLog *files*, really. > > I think it makes sense to provide them in tarballs (to replace the Git > metadata), but I've personally stopped using them years ago when "bzr > log" started being fast enough. We tried that, for a full year. If it worked, we could continue using it. But it doesn't work, even when we have only one active branch. So continuing using it is out of the question if we want to have the files available in the tarballs.