From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scrolling in shell buffer Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:28:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83y3zb51eq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83shpl5jnz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1482165164 13382 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2016 16:32:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 17:32:40 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0rf-0002v5-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:32:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0rj-0007Bu-Ld for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:32:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0o4-00043d-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:28:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0o0-0001YR-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:28:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46511) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0o0-0001YN-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1721 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ0ns-0000f5-E1; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:28:45 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:07:16 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210641 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:07:16 -0500 > > Customizing is not pertinent, since this issue I'm raising > is about the proper default. > > I think that we should make the default behavior for shell buffers, > when point is at the end, to scroll to keep point at the bottom of the > window. > > Does anyone disagree that this behavior would be right? By default? I don't think I agree. It's just another Emacs buffer. Also, various terminal emulators on GUI systems let me scroll the console window past its end, and don't scroll it back each time the shell or some command run from the shell outputs something.