From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:04:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83y3enjzle.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180705093346.071e6970@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83wou9n66t.fsf@gnu.org> <20180705112920.076265d5@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r2khms1j.fsf@gnu.org> <895f8d54-aa4b-a735-19ac-2ffde88b61eb@cs.ucla.edu> <83muv5mq6b.fsf@gnu.org> <837em8l117.fsf@gnu.org> <81b4c3e4-6049-10b7-e4db-64ebaeba10f8@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530947058 30882 195.159.176.226 (7 Jul 2018 07:04:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 07:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, wyuenho@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, perry@piermont.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 09:04:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhGP-0007tg-Iy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 09:04:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60817 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhIW-0000iy-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:06:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39191) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhH3-0000Ef-G9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhGz-00025E-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49074) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhGz-000257-Q7; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:04:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4311 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhGs-0003IF-Ja; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:04:42 -0400 In-reply-to: <81b4c3e4-6049-10b7-e4db-64ebaeba10f8@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:15:13 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227036 Archived-At: > Cc: perry@piermont.com, larsi@gnus.org, wyuenho@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:15:13 -0700 > > All I'm saying is that the EWW defaults should be > similar to what Firefox and the other browsers use; that's just common sense. We agree on that (provided that those browsers don't do something that is known to be silly). > If there are good reasons for the NSM to use different default > settings for non-EWW connections, then of course the NSM should do > that. That's exactly the essence of the discussion. In any case, the current baseline seems to be that we do quite a lot more than the browsers, AFAIU.