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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: oub@mat.ucm.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file])
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:37:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y39v7gym.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0a3a374-d8ac-45b6-8de6-0e8ccc0ea696@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:17:39 -0800 (PST))

> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:17:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> `Z' should be its own inverse.

It is.  But there's a problem with "compressing" directories: Emacs
26.1 introduced an ambiguity, because 'Z' on a directory produces a
.tar.gz archive out of its files, but 'Z' on a .tar.gz file can either
uncompress to produce a .tar file or unpack all the files into a
directory.

> It's fine to have another key that unpacks a tar, or
> even another key that both uncompresses and unpacks.

Then someone will complain that 'Z' on a directory is not its own
inverse.

> BTW, I don't see this change called out in NEWS for
> Emacs 26.  Is it there and I just missed it?

It wasn't announced, and the manual wasn't updated to say what 'Z'
does in a directory.  Shame on us.

>  Compress or uncompress marked (or next prefix argument) files.
>  A prefix argument ARG specifies files to use instead of marked.
>   An integer means use the next ARG files (previous -ARG, if < 0).
>   `C-u': Use the current file (whether or not any are marked).
>   `C-u C-u': Use all files in Dired, except directories.
>   `C-u C-u C-u': Use all files and directories, except `.' and `..'.
>   `C-u C-u C-u C-u': Use all files and all directories.

Is "C-u 0' available?



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 13:18 tgz extension and dired-do-compress Uwe Brauer
2018-11-13 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-13 18:15   ` Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 12:07   ` [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file] (was: tgz extension and dired-do-compress) Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 12:12     ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 13:15       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-11-14 13:50         ` [found the culprit] Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 15:43       ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-14 15:49         ` [found the culprit] Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 16:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-14 16:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 16:57           ` Uwe Brauer
2018-11-14 17:31             ` Drew Adams
2018-11-14 18:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 19:58                 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-14 20:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-14 20:43                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 19:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-14 20:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 21:01               ` jpff
2018-11-16  6:45                 ` Van L
2018-11-16  0:51         ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Richard Stallman
2018-11-14 12:21     ` [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file] (was: tgz extension and dired-do-compress) Alan Mackenzie
2018-11-14 13:16       ` [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file] Uwe Brauer
     [not found]     ` <<87tvkjq2mh.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found]       ` <<834lcj8y1f.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-11-14 16:17         ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Drew Adams
2018-11-14 16:37           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-11-14 16:48             ` [found the culprit] Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 17:22               ` Drew Adams
2018-11-14 18:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-14 19:40                   ` Drew Adams
2018-11-14 20:33           ` Davis Herring
2018-11-14 21:21             ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  2:34             ` Mike Kupfer
2018-11-16  0:55               ` Richard Stallman
2018-11-16  2:24                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-11-16  7:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-16 13:04                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-16 22:59                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-11-16 16:17                   ` Drew Adams
2018-11-16 23:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-11-17  8:04                       ` Yuri Khan
2018-11-18  0:24                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-11-17  1:05                     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-11-16 23:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-11-17  7:42                     ` Yuri Khan
2018-11-15  4:57           ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Yuri Khan
2018-11-15  9:46             ` [found the culprit] Andreas Schwab
2018-11-15 15:21               ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]     ` <<<87tvkjq2mh.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found]       ` <<<834lcj8y1f.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <<f0a3a374-d8ac-45b6-8de6-0e8ccc0ea696@default>
     [not found]           ` <<83y39v7gym.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-11-14 17:10             ` [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Drew Adams
     [not found] <<<875zx1xgiq.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found] <<875zx1xgiq.fsf@mat.ucm.es>

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