From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 15:38:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83y35m6e96.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o97aq6gz.fsf@jidanni.org> <83h8ckezyt.fsf@gnu.org> <83o96qegv1.fsf@gnu.org> <32b1ab1b-bef4-629a-8830-b1dcc6915087@cs.ucla.edu> <83a7iae9va.fsf@gnu.org> <05ed2dec-2a84-f7dc-1af5-c9d923992785@cs.ucla.edu> <87bm2p56gu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838sxrdgco.fsf@gnu.org> <83mum6bv11.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhq6nwsi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <8336nxbxfi.fsf@gnu.org> <2539FAB2-2D71-44F5-B8D9-2C4AFE52ACEC@gmail.com> <83wol986to.fsf@gnu.org> <75275F9B-D257-4C9E-85A0-A7F57C93FD64@gmail.com> <83mum48s9t.fsf@gnu.org> <87ef7gbg08.fsf@gmx.de> <83h8cc8gy6.fsf@gnu.org> <875zssb853.fsf@gmx.de> <0aa7dad2-39b7-2ba1-b4b8-f8db8928c8c0@cs.ucla.edu> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="99443"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, michael.albinus@gmx.de, brandelune@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 10 14:39:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2yfu-000Plq-ES for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:39:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45309 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2yft-0001O6-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 09:39:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2yfK-0001No-Hs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 09:38:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2yfJ-0006HU-Oe; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 09:38:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1875 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h2yf2-0005YH-HR; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 09:38:44 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:09:09 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234029 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:09:09 -0500 > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, brandelune@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Let's start out without any particular rule about this, and let people > try various things. That way we will work out what is useful. Btw, translating messages also means that the likes of this: static bool set_message_1 (ptrdiff_t a1, Lisp_Object string) { [...] if (!NILP (BVAR (current_buffer, bidi_display_reordering))) bset_bidi_paragraph_direction (current_buffer, Qleft_to_right); will need to depend on the current UI language, instead of being hard-coded, so the value should be probably recorded in some file (the message catalog?). Likewise the direction of menu items and tool-bar buttons, if/when we get to translating menus and the tool bar.