From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On elisp running native Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:50:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83y2uwopmf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838smzq9iz.fsf@gnu.org> <8336d6rfgy.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgl6p1xa.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="92631"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: akrl@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 28 08:51:01 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1il6sG-000NwD-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:51:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41676 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1il6sE-0006Zj-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:50:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49999) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1il6s9-0006Zc-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:50:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58783) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1il6s9-0005YK-6I; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3708 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1il6ro-0003FD-V0; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:50:33 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:17:57 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243721 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:17:57 -0500 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org > > Compiling the Elisp code would be > quicker and avoid errors, but will that savings be realized enough > times to justify the time used for developing and maintaining the > compiler? I tend to doubt it. Andrea published some numbers here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-12/msg00018.html They seem to show speedup by a factor of 1.8 compared to bytecode. Another, more synthetic set of benchmarks is here: https://akrl.sdf.org/gccemacs.html#org0d9acac Those benchmarks show even larger speedups.