From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 18:55:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83y2q7n199.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9leqmss.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhapoz63.fsf@gnu.org> <83k11tou72.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggfoli0.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="28722"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 17:56:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdRy-0007IL-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:56:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdRx-0006zv-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdRN-000676-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdRM-0004QH-Lv; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2266 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdR8-00035d-8x; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:55:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 04 May 2020 11:14:41 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248855 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: philippe.vaucher@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, rms@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 11:14:41 -0400 > > >> >> The documentation satisfies a different need. This discussion is not > >> >> about replacing the manual with something else. > >> > Not the manual, the help commands. > >> > >> Neither one nor the other. Nobody is talking about *replacing* anything > >> (other than replacing some names with others, admittedly ;-) > > > > Not entirely accurate. The proposal is to replace (or, rather, add) > > some names that will allow users to discover APIs using completion, > > instead of using Help commands, which were designed for this job. > > Right, replace some names. Not replace the manual or the help commands > with something else. Yes, replace documentation commands with completion, and renaming is the means to that end.