From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 21:01:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83y2px6nis.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <83imh5dnun.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wpdms7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftc9dm07.fsf@gnu.org> <0d678371-2df7-519e-5ec0-7e26bfa6ea34@gmail.com> <11dff979-002e-e03e-2e3e-cdb09fcc409e@yandex.ru> <8017be3d-a4ed-61eb-9bdb-9a95c77a0698@gmail.com> <3adf65ae-fd0d-4fee-adfd-e11d39a148fc@yandex.ru> <01e211df-acfb-fb8a-eedc-7cb439b64cd8@yandex.ru> <90C1E75D-214A-464E-AA24-25CC8C220B3B@icloud.com> <83pnbabjok.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2px98we.fsf@gnu.org> <838shx84ca.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="58908"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, pcr910303@icloud.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 20:02:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZEk-000FD1-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 20:02:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60314 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZEj-0007JE-LY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:02:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZDt-0006p9-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZDs-0004uQ-67; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3290 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYZDi-0001mt-Uo; Tue, 12 May 2020 14:01:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 12 May 2020 13:54:04 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250008 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Stefan Kangas , pcr910303@icloud.com, > cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, > dgutov@yandex.ru > Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:54:04 -0400 > > > If the intent is to create package repositories that are not part of > > the Emacs project, I have no objections (and even if I did, people > > could rightfully ignore them). > > That's not how this works: the only reason for repositories like > "ELPA-Contrib" or "MELPA-Libre" to exist would be that contrary to MELPA > they'd be included in `package-archives` by default. If these are free software repositories, is there any reason for us not to include them? A have a feeling that I'm missing something, but I don't know why. > So if you refuse to include them in `package-archives`, then the > hypothetical repositories won't exist: people can't just ignore > your objections. Given what Phillip just wrote, I'm no longer sure my opinions are relevant at all.