From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where to show message output while inputting [was: New multi-command facility displays in the wrong echo area] Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:39:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83y2k8zxb8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5f7af512-7951-4e10-a8a1-4f5d07ee6cda@default> <95909e9d-07d8-41de-96a5-fe13cbec3131@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34566"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com, juri@linkov.net To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 17:02:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSiIK-0008rt-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:02:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49448 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSiIJ-0006sc-WA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:02:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kShvv-0006KI-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kShvt-0006gI-4P; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3297 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kShvs-0005Zx-0W; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:39:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:59:17 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257639 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:59:17 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: Eli Zaretskii , acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Shifting existing stuff around could be distracting or annoying for some > > users. > > It's what eldoc already does for a similar situation, and I haven't seen > complaints about this. IMO it's elegant to solve that problem in that > way. Eldoc's purpose is different from the purpose of displaying echo-area messages. For example, nothing significantly bad can happen if you miss the Eldoc's hints, but the same is not true for some important echo-area messages. And I think using the mode line for Isearch would be jarring.