From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:54:14 +0200 Message-ID: <83y2ee6kmx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efhx3e.fsf@gnus.org> <838s6f9g5d.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efgg3w.fsf@gnus.org> <878s6fgdzu.fsf@gnus.org> <19c1ec9e-a97f-a8ab-b966-edadbc299c39@yandex.ru> <83mtuu8gdz.fsf@gnu.org> <87tup26om4.fsf@posteo.net> <831rc682js.fsf@gnu.org> <1bfef8b5-aa26-f64f-1e3b-06aabc9e9939@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34137"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 15:06:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOhfe-0008ky-CQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:06:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46764 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOhfd-00088H-EX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOhUH-0001W1-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:54:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOhUE-0005CC-LR; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2606 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lOhU1-0000UX-Jr; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:54:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1bfef8b5-aa26-f64f-1e3b-06aabc9e9939@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:09:50 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266873 Archived-At: > Cc: bugs@gnu.support, larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:09:50 +0200 > > Having an alternative, well-considered set of bindings which new user > can just toggle on and get comfortable should be valuable. I doubt that, because we already tried that in CUA mode. That one actually was better posed to succeed, since its key bindings weren't invented "out of thin air", but use widely accepted conventions. That said, I have no objection to having non-default sets of key bindings that users can turn on at will. I was only responding to what I thought was a proposal for conducting such experiments with the eventual goal of making the bindings the default.