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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug-reference-prog-mode slows down CC Mode's scrolling by ~7%
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 19:12:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y28cuxoc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1r64ic7b.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 04 Sep 2021 11:55:08 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: acm@muc.de,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 11:55:08 -0400
> 
> >> But my understanding of what you're saying is that you don't consider
> >> "how `jit-lock-bounds` are used" to be an internal detail.  Instead you
> >> consider these to be part of the "protocol" that the writer of client
> >> functions needs to know in order for those functions to work correctly.
> >> And I can't understand why you'd think that.  I think even in the
> >> current situation, none of what we have discussed has prompted a need or
> >> desire to change client functions: they're oblivious to the change
> >> being discussed.
> > We have the reason right before our eyes: what Alan needs to do.  If
> > these details are not important, why does he work on changing them?
> 
> His change is not to font-lock but to jit-lock.  So it's consistent with
> my claim that it's a matter that's internal to jit-lock.
> 
> >> If so, could you give some kind of scenario where that could happen?
> > Why do I need to come up with a scenario, when it's clear as a day
> > that programming blindly to an insufficiently documented interface is
> > asking for trouble?
> 
> But the change under consideration does not affect the documentation of
> the API exposed to client functions, AFAICT.  I'm not asking the author
> to program blindly.  I just can't see any reason to specify any more
> precisely than saying that BEG...END can be any valid region in the
> buffer and that the function can use `jit-lock-bounds` to inform
> jit-lock of the region actually handled, where this `jit-lock-bounds`
> needs to cover BEG...END but is otherwise optional and only used for
> optimization purposes.
> 
> [ This is largely consistent with what you wrote in the docstring, so
>   it seems we agree on this part.  ]
> 
> The precise way in which jit-lock uses this info for optimization
> purposes is something that may change (and hence should not be part of
> the contract/documentation) as evidenced by the fact that Alan already
> has 2 proposed patches that change it in different ways, and I myself
> described yet another possible way it could be used.

Let's agree to disagree about this, okay?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01 17:33 bug-reference-prog-mode slows down CC Mode's scrolling by ~7% Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-01 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 17:55   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-01 18:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 18:20       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-01 18:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 19:19           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-01 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-02  6:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 16:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-02 18:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-02 19:24       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-02 21:08         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-03  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 12:30             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-03 12:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 22:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04  6:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 13:36                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 13:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 14:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 14:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 15:55                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:12                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-09-04 16:24                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 16:40                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-03  6:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 10:47           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-03 11:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 16:15               ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-03 12:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-03 12:19           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-03 12:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 16:52           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-03 20:51             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-04  6:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 14:50                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-04 15:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 15:32                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-04 15:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 15:43                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-04 15:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 16:05                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-04 16:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 10:46                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-06 11:10                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 19:08                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-06 19:23                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 11:37                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-18 11:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 21:59                                       ` andrés ramírez
2021-09-07 19:47                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-07 17:57                                           ` andrés ramírez
2021-09-06 13:24                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:06                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 16:39                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 17:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 17:47                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 18:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 18:40                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-11 12:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-11 17:04                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-11 17:17                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-11 18:00                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-11 18:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-11 19:55                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-12  3:51                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 16:41                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-12 16:53                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 17:41                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-12 17:55                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 21:11                                                           ` Stefan Monnier

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