From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: <83y24vw923.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czmdqpv9.fsf@web.de> <83h7bo7rvz.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl1tjage.fsf@web.de> <83fsr4zfl2.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24vvnnk.fsf@web.de> <875yrzg6o4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czm7wysa.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 13:58:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1muwWm-0007wk-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 13:58:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwWj-0001Zo-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:58:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwTf-0006p5-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=56160 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwTe-0008CJ-Qv; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:55:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tbppCKurram8w1vjt1hU669NBweHopruEzIhAPcMCdQ=; b=Vzbh24/4BRpr Oy5ya7LCGZzogo1KgCeOog7KRcKLYd5BoOS6lk1eIiKQHDEHz4cl0MpOff7WWSQ431VcLlSP5d8Yh 4+wsenUowo4qvR6fs0XQtCPmHuFfiznAv+VbhjrOH+UmXGZhCjd4TPlB9NxKqpw6POg4WVrLEQN1V QUM4bd2dVSQo/N7//dnSTr6k8SjOXV3vqIuypY18BdnRDCEZyfFZax9N6e9O/JNrVepwr61nr/ZjE cVZaTupK4KD1d94Zab4yc11juOud7R2dF6Ep68JcV9H2xvO9/EGWzj9coLgIm/pmfYHQpvZtBTKUD U6bxk4cqgaUEhqwBIBj2yA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4700 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwTe-0002rA-EU; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:55:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87czm7wysa.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 04:39:17 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281344 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 04:39:17 +0100 > > Po Lu writes: > > > But how are those warnings different from what the user will get if he > > runs `package-install' on a package that causes warnings from the > > byte-compiler? > > Depends on when these warnings appear. When they appear as normal side > effect when installing something, they are not different. When they > appear out of nothing, delayed, from a background process, they are > different because the user not necessarily knows that they are related > to the installation. They don't appear out of nothing, they appear because the session loaded some Lisp. See my other message. I suspect this is just something we need to get used to, that's all. It isn't different in principle from what can happen when you just load a bunch of Lisp into a running session.