From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making `x-underline-at-descent-line' a face attribute Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:17:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83y23s5821.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lezt5v7h.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87lezt5v7h.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfu18dao.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtk87hmd.fsf@gnu.org> <86czl41uua.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87zgo8z7mu.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4286"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 07 08:20:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5jXp-0000tW-4v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:20:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38072 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5jXo-0006Ep-1x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5jUd-0003jX-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:16:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=38578 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5jUd-0002SK-Bf; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:16:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=C24KjJ69g88sl1QMM8Ev4BvVvX9S+VEe0TOjyfytn9I=; b=CEmqDWqgbTWy PrPbYB/efiqOG5ci4nBtwDYOLCU4/p4V7yQlEPGEkGNZNkw4jIWzS9foIDwgRH2bAllwt9BkVTCOM 9QZzfEGEPqQffL1E84fVk1s0iwjXpbSqHxa73ain58VfpzBviT1y8tnKUP6yKdfYUR0QviOKhdjCX u8DCONucMb9K2EcUM/P3RsRdHFkocizAtEWBRgWpbpF+5kX3MSJxrsSJFv9vF0phk9fjUSZYtzuZR 05a2kTDfo3WbobvyXIgaCxeTsUKNhF7o0vdbKhH5I4w8kKARFHf0y8nAfxUkFJmyWuSBJs/QX8Lvl AeHpOF3ok59+dYzNJ9anqQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4958 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5jUd-0007ns-0R; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:16:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zgo8z7mu.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:55:53 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284377 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Jim Porter , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:55:53 +0800 > > Juri Linkov writes: > > >> In general, I think the visual appearance of tab-bar and tab-line > >> buttons needs a lot of love and care; what we have now simply looks > >> badly, IMNSHO. We've basically copied the code that displays the tool > >> bar, but without the attention that was at the time given to the > >> visual appearance of the (native tool-bar buttons. The result is that > >> the tool-bar buttons look much prettier than the tab bar and the tab > >> lines. Compare our tab bar with that of any of the Web browsers out > >> there, and you will see what I mean. there's no good reason why our > >> tabs couldn't look as pretty as those of the browser, the only problem > >> is that it involves coding in C, not Lisp. I still hope someone with > >> experience in graphics programming will do that. > > > Everyone with experience in graphics programming is welcome. > > So basically what people want is to clone the appearance of, say, > Mozilla Firefox's tabs? Not necessarily clone what Firefox (or any other browser) does, but IMO we should have our tabs look much more professional (a.k.a. "pretty") than they look now. if we don't reproduce the looks of the browser tabs, but our tab buttons are good looking, that's good enough for me.