From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: apropos for packages [was: plz -> curl?] Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 21:28:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1z0f1yq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8335h8gl57.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15584"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, mardani29@yahoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 17 20:29:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nr1x6-0003qX-Fl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:29:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55800 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr1x5-0000oH-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr1w0-0008IY-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr1vz-0004fh-15; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:28:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=kJipNBYGstTtYvmaboNSxEvYRe4N+DpWl/cYhIO6BZc=; b=oARGbjavTcxwxd1XRnIA ycpO92b5g4fr7uJt4YqMnsNgqxqhR2eqaIYpg5MnMbPDGMPg6OdfvqMoHebuxmeiuhYUpd7UU15UU k8RULpSBtwM+1QhITnDGlaMddh2SdMbueT/udYy6fIjXKvehpLfqMUZTb1g2Xz9UHZJLHnL3L510A V9f94d5wV/yTWVpkBjs54SVsTo+uh1RiNzcIAaYIWa/2koJLtPyvtB8aJayC6MReo5RaRlaVX56fI 85KBpCvn3OnrRWId1KfjoQE8sKJnaZZmhpFYKZXimkKvTXZUd6G/NgHIlnftvcqK1EAsEdgmKGsSo aFjk3/Pxoynntw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4624 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr1vx-0000lI-E6; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:28:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 17 May 2022 18:04:25 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289865 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "adam@alphapapa.net" , > "luangruo@yahoo.com" > , > "larsi@gnus.org" , "rms@gnu.org" > , > "philipk@posteo.net" , > "mardani29@yahoo.es" , > "emacs-devel@gnu.org" > > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 18:04:25 +0000 > > > > With C-u prefix, or if ‘apropos-do-all’ is non-nil, > > > it searches all currently defined documentation > > > strings. > > > > > > For example, `C-u C-h d backtrace' doesn't show an > > > entry for package `backtrace', even though the pkg > > > doc string mentions "backtrace". (Emacs 27.2) > > > > You are taking that text out of its context. The doc > > string _really_ says this: > > > > Show symbols whose documentation contains matches for PATTERN. > > It also _really_ says what I wrote. I'm not making > anything up, so please don't insinuate that. > > Yes, I recognize that the doc in question is that > provided by `describe-package' - it's not technically > a doc string for the package. > > > And now we understand why you don't see the package > > backtrace.el: it's because it is not a symbol. > > If you want to quibble, fine. I hereby refuse to talk to you anymore until such time as you learn to talk in a civilized manner. This isn't the first time, nor the second or the third. It's a constant attitude, and no amount of pointing this fact to you helps you change your ways. Shame on you!