From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:29:36 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1th5fe7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83o7uzivey.fsf@gnu.org> <3ac9d2b9632f75018327a1bcde0c373f152c404a.camel@gmail.com> <835ygob7ja.fsf@gnu.org> <8335bra2rl.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilkncugg.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgdz7x8u.fsf@gnu.org> <83leph7e4c.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36447"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, liliana.prikler@gmail.com, rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 16:31:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojiBy-0009NH-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:31:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44280 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojiBx-0000Ns-HI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojiAY-0007Ur-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojiAX-0004l0-Ef; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:29:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kHj7ksIhvzav6pnAne8yr/IIhPjXv38L0Tw19+IxfVQ=; b=Vw0H+6+BBrlV 7g3wvWdhF9PvCx2avppbIY7hBdcaIawwZ++8bU0Hcl0aGzz+IKGdYMgc7h/dMP6kKWufWhnlqMQb1 LfRSNWOBVeseJCOyWXyVAxKLsPWweB2j/paICMchlWUzmUl+ZuASGvf0pmVWFC99yIk4JIF+lp8Cd O5QskKRakyp2JmEYMRHJ5GzVPBc/9h/SyvhspElOWFerIflGE8ei+XAv6Q8TTkiTUn9SuGbKaNev6 QjmdWmEkkhmPGr2M2qR7DcgbZ0GaPmwim21+EnWO+oIGYVaEXFvB61AVGJUdl6382Mn15N1SuIa7D bWRBqrDVjRpFP6bvgyDObg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3352 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojiAW-0004Bs-M4; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:29:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:10:23 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297780 Archived-At: > From: Lynn Winebarger > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:10:23 -0400 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrea Corallo , Lars Ingebrigtsen , > liliana.prikler@gmail.com, rlb@defaultvalue.org, > emacs-devel > > Didn't you, a couple of years ago, suggest generating generic trampolines (per function signature), compile > those with gccjit, then just use them as needed rather than compiling separate trampolines for every subr? > Presumably the system would still occasionally need to compile a trampoline for a new signature, but the > generic trampoline would not be named so it couldn't cause an infinite recursion by being advised before > being compiled. If we want to compile all the trampolines AOT, that is already possible in Emacs 29, one just needs to actually do it when building Emacs.