From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 18:05:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83y1f4uvfh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871qd8sfdx.fsf@posteo.net> <838r7g8pys.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcbrgnr.fsf@posteo.net> <25924.21015.19614.951576@orion.rgrjr.com> <87bkc4jpja.fsf@dataswamp.org> <12da6bcb-1818-7fbe-12af-8d4607724332@gutov.dev> <83sf5fyx60.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7g3ynjp.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6lvhrme.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83jzqrylte.fsf@gnu.org> <87edgwigg3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83bkc0wfy6.fsf@gnu.org> <871qcwidsf.fsf@dataswamp.org> <837cmowf2a.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmuogx22.fsf@dataswamp.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4438"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 11 17:06:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r1qVD-0000xs-IY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 17:06:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1qUo-0003G3-FB; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:06:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1qUn-0003Fh-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1qUm-0006z0-D4; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:06:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=fxPa5ydFyp2UqGYmqm/AjWRHsIi+MOKcZQ07zJEuMIo=; b=PVMcwIW22XUS hLnlADPIueOqgyhC1RelBFzIxTthT2SBbwQvJsg/0sg+MGoK92sgbhGzeZF5680LA51QZR8+amoub Nn34RQSYTaGowi+ppTF+sazvPXiUOOqIV9Z/U2zt39sjgiNKipoEBhIzH+mQS6jieScu7NQvqebEf t/N7Dzi+W8ZlhWnPDBTpDWcPaIXJ0vj8Atmf/BYI2oY7YLFdZYQBhj9h2yN2nxr6ObFjQBiOrg1Tq 1gqWpmHWTN4jHRgkkzGsXt7buz8cDC2dG0Mc5ttEzJsoxwI8dWAHb0wldRJUEZkXVKZpjqKwKw4Ry Qpw+sUGbAbBRN/FxmhjDLg==; In-Reply-To: <87wmuogx22.fsf@dataswamp.org> (message from Emanuel Berg on Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:54:29 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312589 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:54:29 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Why can't more people be involved? > > > > They can, just not as simply as you put it, and what can be > > done is already being done, by and large. > > Did you ask, for example, on this list? Yes, when that is appropriate. > I have noticed in the package manager there are 70 packages > that are "built-in". See admin/MAINTAINERS.