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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sending attachments
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:14:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ws6kz4o9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buozlbhum7y.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com>

> From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
> Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:54:25 +0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >> How, exactly, is message-mode an "imposition" on "people who are happy
> >> with simple modes"?
> >
> > If you insist on everyone switching to message-mode and making
> > mail-mode obsolete, you are imposing message-mode on them.
> 
> "imposition" is pejorative

So is ``leaky bandaids''.

> > This old fart simply doesn't want to learn a new mode unless it's
> > absolutely necessary.  Is this so hard to understand?
> 
> What if the new mode is effectively indistinguishable from the old mode?

My gray hair says there ain't no such thing.  If it's more powerful
and sophisticated, there's some price to pay.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-07 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-01 19:47 Sending attachments Richard Stallman
2009-07-01 19:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-05  0:06   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 21:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-06  3:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-11 15:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-06 15:04       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-11 15:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-12 10:11           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-13 12:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-14 10:44               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-14 13:10                 ` Leo
2009-07-14 13:52                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-15 16:45                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-15 18:18                     ` Frank Schmitt
2009-07-16  4:42                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-16  5:19                         ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-16 14:30                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-15 18:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-16 16:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-16 18:17                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-17 12:20                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-19  0:55                           ` Mike Kupfer
2009-07-16  1:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-16  5:30                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-19  4:37                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-16 14:45                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-17 13:30                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-17 18:05                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-18 17:11                           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-18 19:15                             ` rfc2047.el dependencies on mm-util.el (was: Sending attachments) Reiner Steib
2009-07-19  4:36                               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19  5:30                                 ` rfc2047.el dependencies on mm-util.el Stefan Monnier
2009-07-19 23:21                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-20 18:21                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 18:26                                       ` Bastien
2009-07-20 18:45                                         ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-21 14:41                                           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19 18:10                                 ` rfc2047.el dependencies on mm-util.el (was: Sending attachments) Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 23:22                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-22 21:57                                   ` Kevin Ryde
2009-07-18 17:11                           ` Sending attachments Richard Stallman
2009-07-14 16:17                 ` Jonathan Rockway
2009-07-14 18:33                 ` Bastien
2009-07-14 18:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-16  1:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-16  1:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 22:39     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-06 15:05       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-07  9:43         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-01 23:34 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02 19:21   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03  2:37     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03  7:44       ` message-mode / mail-mode (was: Sending attachments) Teemu Likonen
2009-07-03  8:43         ` message-mode / mail-mode Miles Bader
2009-07-03  8:55           ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03  9:07           ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-05 21:40           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-06  6:45             ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-11 10:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-02  1:01 ` Sending attachments Robert J. Chassell
2009-07-02 13:39   ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02 14:33     ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-02 16:40     ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-03 22:52       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-04 14:39         ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-07-04 15:19         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-02 17:26     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-03 13:47       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03 14:21         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-05 21:41           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-06 15:05             ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 16:07               ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-07 10:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-07 12:19                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-08  0:16                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-08  9:46                       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-08 18:34                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-08 20:36                           ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-09 11:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-08 11:41                       ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-08 13:41                         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-08 14:16                           ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-08 14:27                             ` Miles Bader
2009-07-08 14:40                               ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-08 15:09                               ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-09  2:47                                 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-09 11:54                               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-09 20:43                                 ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-10  6:39                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-10  9:02                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-10 11:01                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 11:55                                         ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-11 18:30                                           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-10 12:42                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-11 18:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-10  9:17                                     ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-08 19:07                         ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-09 11:54                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-09 20:47                           ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-08 19:08                       ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-07 12:48                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-06 16:16               ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-07 10:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03 17:37         ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-03 22:52           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-04 15:11             ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-04 15:54               ` Leo
2009-07-05 14:47             ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-06 20:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-07  1:12                 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-07  3:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-07  4:54                     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-07 19:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-07-11 18:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-11 20:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-07  9:43                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-07 10:11                     ` Richard Riley
2009-07-07 13:53                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-07 10:05               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-07 13:49                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-08  0:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-10 13:29                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-11 19:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-15 21:51             ` Reducing Gnus dependencies in message.el (was: Sending attachments) Reiner Steib
2009-07-03 14:21       ` Sending attachments Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-04 15:33         ` Chad Brown
2009-07-04 15:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-04 17:08             ` Chad Brown
2009-07-05 10:18               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05  1:40             ` Daniel Pittman
2009-07-05  2:39             ` Miles Bader
2009-07-05  3:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-05  3:44                 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-05 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-05 20:44                     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-06  3:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-06  3:50                         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-06  4:54                           ` Miles Bader
2009-07-06 20:06                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-06 22:35                               ` Miles Bader
2009-07-07  0:59                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-07-07  9:43                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-08  0:16                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-11 15:45                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-06  6:37                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-06  7:47                             ` Miles Bader
2009-07-06 20:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-06 14:13                             ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-06 20:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-07  5:57                             ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-07-06 15:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-11 19:08                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-11 19:41                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-12  3:05                             ` Leo
2009-07-12  3:10                               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-13 12:11                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-15  9:35                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-15 11:44                                 ` Richard Riley
2009-07-15 14:22                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-05 22:56                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-06 20:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-05  8:01               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-05  8:30                 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-06 15:05               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 20:05         ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-07-05 20:22           ` Alfred M. Szmidt

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