From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:12:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wre9qvuh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fwkxh2ug.fsf@stories.gnus.org>
> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:51:03 +0200
>
> To me, a nice interface to create a bit of text (that may later be
> chopped up before insertion) would be to have a function like
> (bidi-make-separate-string "lala"). This could perhaps be implemented
> like (propertize "lala" 'bidi-region (make-unique-identifier)).
>
> That is, what I'm saying is "make a string that will be treated
> independently for bidi purposes".
Is using the directional control characters and/or TABs permitted for
the solution? If it is, there's more than one way to do what you
want, I will show you the most bulletproof one as soon as you agree to
see it ;-)
If using directional controls is not allowed, or frowned upon, then we
currently lack the infrastructure to do that, and as you see from this
thread, exactly which feature would be best for doing this is still
being debated.
Btw, I'm not at all sure the API you suggest is the best one. One
alternative would be to specify the entire line, with marker
characters to show separate fields, and ask to modify this line such
that fields will be displayed left to right (or right to left) in
their order in the string. It's possible there are other alternatives
as well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-19 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 245+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-15 8:04 bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-15 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 9:24 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 11:27 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 12:56 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 14:18 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 9:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-26 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-26 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-27 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-27 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-28 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-28 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-22 21:35 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 9:58 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 15:29 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones [was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default] Drew Adams
2011-08-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:45 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:24 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:14 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:28 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-15 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 2:02 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:07 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 7:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:40 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 9:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 15:48 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 22:24 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-17 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-17 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 22:32 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 17:13 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 22:44 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-19 3:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-19 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 20:00 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 8:14 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers (was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-20 9:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-20 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 13:51 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 17:28 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 20:01 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:29 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Chong Yidong
2011-08-19 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:43 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 14:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-19 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-08-15 9:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-16 10:02 Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-16 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 11:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
2011-07-28 17:21 Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-28 18:51 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28 20:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-07-30 22:55 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 3:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:21 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:44 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 7:36 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:27 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:51 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:59 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 10:35 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:23 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 11:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 13:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 14:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 1:14 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-01 2:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 2:39 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 2:56 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 18:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 5:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 6:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-04 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 6:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 10:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 13:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 14:04 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-04 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 16:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-05 5:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-05 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 8:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-04 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:41 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-08-05 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 21:54 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-06 2:01 ` Jason Rumney
2011-08-06 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-07 17:21 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-07 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-09 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:30 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 17:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 18:00 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-11 5:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-09 22:26 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 1:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 4:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:52 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-11 2:45 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-10 3:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 3:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 5:36 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 22:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 22:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 23:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-10 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 15:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 16:16 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-06 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-06 19:21 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-07-31 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-02 16:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 16:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 18:27 ` James Cloos
2011-08-02 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 20:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 7:20 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 10:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-02 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 13:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 3:04 ` محسن بنان
2011-08-03 5:11 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 5:52 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 9:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 12:08 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 13:06 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 14:10 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 17:20 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 19:26 ` main
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