From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoying (frameset bug?): desktop-mode and maxmized frame Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:15:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83wqkd1trl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ob5srgmz.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjpcpe9h.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwlcp33l.fsf@gmail.com> <87txfjcr3p.fsf@gmail.com> <8738n3447s.fsf@gmail.com> <87y54vc57s.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m63mzf.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqkevwld.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384272929 22627 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2013 16:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 12 17:15:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGcm-0000Hg-Fu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:15:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43758 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGcm-0003bY-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:15:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGcc-0003b6-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:15:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGcW-0005he-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:15:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGcW-0005hA-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:15:16 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MW500M00R0S6Z00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:15:15 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MW500LRPRTCYHA0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:15:13 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87wqkevwld.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165212 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:13:42 +0530 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Of course, if you have concrete proposals that work, let's hear them. > > I have added more details as part of bug#15870. Thanks. > If frameset restoration is a hairy business, then have it disabled by > default. _Everything_ during startup is hairy, and I tried to explain why in one of my previous messages. It would be unreasonable to disable features just because startup is hard to get right. Instead, we should work on these features to avoid annoying problems, as we always do. I think since restoration of frame configuration was finalized, this is the first complaint, which means quite a few users are happy. I'm sure your reports will be analyzed and acted upon.