From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:15:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83wq3hu92p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> <838ugdf251.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnl1vmqf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vbj8tow4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3twtagf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85siebl7ws.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85a90ilwmm.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83386a6f7z.fsf@gnu.org> <85h9upjz7v.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83wq3k3kl4.fsf@gnu.org> <85bnkwil1c.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83pp9cwky8.fsf@gnu.org> <85a90ggf2d.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <54E0A40F.5080603@dancol.org> <83sie7un20.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0D181.2080802@dancol.org> <83r3trulse.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0D7E0.305@87.69.4.28> <83h9unukbg.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0DEF8.7020901@dancol> <83egpruiyp.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0FF93.2000104@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424104201 22676 80.91.229.3 (16 Feb 2015 16:30:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?= Aptel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 16 17:29:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YNOYO-00035v-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:29:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNOYN-0000Cq-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:29:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNOKJ-0000Ed-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:15:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNOKE-0000AQ-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:15:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:63804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNOKE-00009R-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:15:10 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJV00I00H1PRL00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:15:08 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJV00IE2H53FR80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:15:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183169 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:05:49 +0100 > From: Aur=C3=A9lien Aptel > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stephen Leake ,=20 > =09Emacs development discussions >=20 > > 5) Do we need to provide direct access to string contents? >=20 > Strings are already stored as mostly UTF-8, why would you not provi= de > direct access to that, at least read-only? It's a superset of UTF-8, yes. However, the deviations are not insignificant, especially for unibyte strings. Dealing with their data requires knowledge that most people don't have (and don't need, IMO).