From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master d014a5e: Use fixed-pitch font for display-line-numbers Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:57:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83wp7cgwie.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170711151708.4322.33014@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170711151709.2AE9822E0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <8760eyv7mc.fsf@holos> <83h8yhiuy3.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499962139 18163 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2017 16:08:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mvoteiza@udel.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 13 18:08:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgfY-0004CM-Sp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60965 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgfe-0000cK-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgUe-0007JF-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgUb-0002U5-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgUa-0002Ts-TE; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3477 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dVgUa-0000f0-5w; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:57:28 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Yuri Khan on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:13:02 +0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216584 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:13:02 +0700 > Cc: Mark Oteiza , Emacs developers > > >> > (fixed-pitch-serif shadow default) > >> > >> Why fixed-pitch-serif? fixed-pitch should be sufficient. > > > > I'm not sure I understand: sufficient for what? These are two > > different families. > > Maybe, but the name ‘fixed-pitch-serif’ suggests a particular > presentation (a serif font), while ‘fixed-pitch’ does not. AFAIU, fixed-pitch just means Sans Serif, so it is also a particular presentation in that sense. > Based on face names alone, I would expect that it is more likely for > ‘fixed-pitch’ to be the same family as ‘default’ than for > ‘fixed-pitch-serif’. What is that expectation based on? I don't see anything in the definitions of these faces and the family aliases they use to suggest something other than simple heuristics regarding good fonts available on various platforms. And fixed-pitch definitely doesn't yield the same font as the default face on my system. I tried to explain the reasons in another message regarding the same issue.