From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: preferring https: to http: in commit messages for gnu.org Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:09:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83wp3vf7u8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <61bfc72e-b21f-3fb9-25b7-b718bb69d85b@cs.ucla.edu> <83shekh4je.fsf@gnu.org> <494d6c88-bec0-9edc-a35b-32b59fedff05@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508166616 11080 195.159.176.226 (16 Oct 2017 15:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 16 17:10:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e471i-0000oO-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 17:09:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33401 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e471m-0007OA-JO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e471A-0007O2-DJ for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:09:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4716-0006St-9B for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:09:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4716-0006Sp-5L; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:09:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1967 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e4715-0001b1-KO; Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:09:20 -0400 In-reply-to: <494d6c88-bec0-9edc-a35b-32b59fedff05@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Mon, 16 Oct 2017 00:07:09 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219580 Archived-At: > Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 00:07:09 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I cannot be responsible for every useful URL out there. > > The newly-added change does not check for every useful URL, only for URLs to > gnu.org or fsf.org. That includes URLs such as http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-10/msg00592.html doesn't it? This is by far the most frequent use of URLs in the commit log messages for me: to cite discussions on our lists, since it is not uncommon to have an issue be raised on a list, rather than via the bug tracker. If you can amend the change to leave out URLs that point to GNU mailing list messages, it's possible that what's left will be insignificant noise for me. But I rather suspect that lists.gnu.org pointers are one of your main targets... > The goal is for developers to have reliable communications > from the GNU project itself, even if other sources are less reliable. Sorry, I cannot be responsible for the protocols supported by GNU list servers. It is unreasonable to ask me to correct such references, or risk to have my commits rejected. > Without this change, I need to manually fix the gnu.org and fsf.org URLs in > ChangeLog., which is an annoyance. It is a similar annoyance to require me to do that when I need to cite a mailing-list message. > (Especially since many of these URLs are in my own commit > messages. :-) Well, you can always install such hooks locally, if that's the problem. Thanks.