From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:36:20 +0200 Message-ID: <83wnxg7b4r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <838s9zavcx.fsf@gnu.org> <87im92nmd6.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2hx91u1.fsf@gnu.org> <87czz9enc6.fsf@gmail.com> <878s9wn1ay.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33519"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 17 15:37:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpuPV-0008d9-PQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 15:37:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42468 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpuPU-0005l0-Pq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:37:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpuOG-0005G0-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:36:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpuOD-0007fE-3q; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:36:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4234 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kpuOC-00024l-As; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:36:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <878s9wn1ay.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:01:57 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261109 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:01:57 +0100 > > > (Iʼve never really liked the toolbar enable/disable menu. How many gui > > applications these days let you put the toolbar anywhere other than at > > the top?) > > Yeah, that's weird, and shouldn't be in the menu. It's a detail best > left to `M-x customize'. Took me a few moments to understand what you two are talking about. You are both looking at a GTK build, right? Where we allow the user to control this aspect of the tool bar because GTK supports it? AFAIK, no other toolkit has that menu item. So if you want to ask what kind of GUI environment lets users put the tool bar anywhere but the top, the answer is GTK ;-)