From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 18:49:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83wnnf6w3r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210912165141.9491.52637@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210912165143.5BC1E20A5E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <47d6e9a6-f334-eda9-2e08-0a946e51fc4a@yandex.ru> <83v934emk7.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfy8d7oo.fsf@gnus.org> <9194fc93-fb9c-000f-a35a-321ddd259893@gmx.at> <8735q5yi63.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czp9by3s.fsf@gnu.org> <05cbffe0-f89b-ff54-64f5-cd1d11bac4f5@yandex.ru> <831r5pbt7j.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnnhacy4.fsf@gnu.org> <40937e22-994f-466c-87be-4f70a522118a@yandex.ru> <83pmt790cz.fsf@gnu.org> <41b90a60-04ab-8ef1-24ee-ac30d39640aa@yandex.ru> <837dff8niq.fsf@gnu.org> <8a9a14b9-c562-8813-daea-28108f3173f3@yandex.ru> <8335q38ktr.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9216"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 17 17:51:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRG9D-00027f-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:51:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRG9B-0002ON-Kw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRG7W-0001d2-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRG7T-0003XD-Nu; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:49:44 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3658 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRG7C-0000Jf-TZ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:49:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:07:17 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274885 Archived-At: > Cc: rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefan@marxist.se, > juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:07:17 +0300 > > > It doesn't matter. This is a decision we already made, so just saying > > you don't like it is not good enough. We need a much stronger reason > > to reverse previous decisions. > > The cost of backtracking is low, so yes, if people even simply say "we > don't like it", it should be changed. There are a lot of low-cost changes we could do, but I very much hope we won't do them just because they are low-cost. > I've listed particular reasons as well, but what does it matter: you > ignore those parts of messages. Because you aren't saying anything new. > > If you look at the commit log messages, even the latest > > ones done today, you will see that almost everyone disputes that part. > > This is orthogonal to this discussion. It is? Says who? AFAICS, it is very much part of the discussion, just read the messages.