From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 16:53:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83wnlqk3rn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875ytag0hb.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgqmd5np.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23408"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 02 16:11:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhvRV-0005xD-9H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 16:11:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55798 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhvRU-0006rw-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 11:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhvAO-0003au-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 10:53:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhvAO-0002cW-BW; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 10:53:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=E/ZIaz5awqNTm5ytbAPpWW0lsAdPCW3TuTA1sDFNeCw=; b=A6kzHSewDGEX aGu5FWSp0MVqgCu8JWHDuC/rju4r8AwkaYqfzcRgkxuaeADfPCzkBwfH0YLVJPeoQhPNPMFG4wAOe Ch96NCh0YwSekJZYKCvRKGBGzU+A87ZdD/bUJQeiuX35mE/9SbGOsz1v39qxe+tOE8qoN0mKE8xwQ tUWBy1yYz5dICqkxtCAuhsTTVcJiY5OBwcP/3XtDnV3LaoEP3CHFivT9HAnSgWi2xAriK4c/afzDz 84hg0+/+PUyptAu8NCVSKN4c11NrwV+HBkSnbeMg+bwWt8VIsVYszp/dwAVh17FmgYHKNl+nvjWk+ QXX2wL9XtH9nrpLpWcA6Uw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4834 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhvAN-0000ak-Sp; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 10:53:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zgqmd5np.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (message from Uwe Brauer on Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:54:34 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278491 Archived-At: > From: Uwe Brauer > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:54:34 +0100 > > I was about to ask about this article especially since emacs was also > investigated. "Investigated" is a very string word for what I found there about Emacs. They didn't even bother to mention which editors display the formatting controls and which make them invisible (and thus much harder to find, even if one is vigilant). Another issue with this paper is that they dismiss the importance of leaving the formatting controls on display and the seemingly-erratic cursor motion around the problematic text, saying that "this requires more attention than is given by most developers", but then go ahead and propose to flag the problematic text on display, which somehow should attract enough attention and overcome those problems. So much for unbiased logic...