From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 16:53:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wnlqk3rn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgqmd5np.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (message from Uwe Brauer on Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:54:34 +0100)
> From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:54:34 +0100
>
> I was about to ask about this article especially since emacs was also
> investigated.
"Investigated" is a very string word for what I found there about
Emacs. They didn't even bother to mention which editors display the
formatting controls and which make them invisible (and thus much
harder to find, even if one is vigilant).
Another issue with this paper is that they dismiss the importance of
leaving the formatting controls on display and the seemingly-erratic
cursor motion around the problematic text, saying that "this requires
more attention than is given by most developers", but then go ahead
and propose to flag the problematic text on display, which somehow
should attract enough attention and overcome those problems. So much
for unbiased logic...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-02 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-02 12:57 Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-02 13:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 13:54 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-11-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:21 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 16:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 18:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 21:28 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:20 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 19:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:58 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:21 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:44 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-03 18:45 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:35 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 20:45 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 8:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 6:00 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 9:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 10:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:03 ` Po Lu
2021-11-04 11:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 11:34 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 14:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 17:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-05 23:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 2:23 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 3:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:21 ` code annotations Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 5:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 5:23 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 6:13 ` Po Lu
2021-11-05 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 13:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 23:33 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-06 0:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-06 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 19:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-08 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 21:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-09 3:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:58 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 17:09 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2021-11-06 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 8:09 ` tomas
2021-11-06 1:09 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-04 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 21:13 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-04 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 20:18 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Tim Cross
2021-11-03 0:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 1:59 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-03 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 9:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-03 11:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 12:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 12:41 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:46 ` tomas
2021-11-03 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:34 ` tomas
2021-11-03 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 14:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 16:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 11:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 18:52 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 19:41 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-03 20:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 22:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-04 8:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-11-03 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 19:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-03 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 18:53 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-03 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 21:15 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-11-04 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-04 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 18:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-02 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 19:17 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-02 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 17:24 ` [authors: default bidi-display-reordering is set to t] (was: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful) Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:31 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 15:13 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-11-02 13:42 ` tomas
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-11-03 15:07 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-03 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-04 7:50 ` Reini Urban
2021-11-04 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-03 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-05 18:53 ` Unicode confusables " Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-05 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 11:56 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06 13:10 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-11-06 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-10 15:47 ` Unicode confusables and reordering characters " Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-10 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-10 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
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