From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contradictiory directions Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:51:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83wnk6ht6u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20211211035614.15517.53830@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211211035616.984DD20A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee6j4ty4.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mz4o70.fsf@yahoo.com> <83k0gbr0dm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24r33bn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6h5tap6.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufbu7jg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y24nr6nk.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ntz0t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk6mjlm.fsf@gnus.org> <877dc6tjz0.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <871r2e5g4u.fsf@telefonica.net> <87o85iqi7u.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15305"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 15:36:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxVOX-0003pQ-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:36:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56588 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxVOW-00029m-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:36:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40026) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxUhd-0005ZH-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=49404 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxUhc-0007rC-Mo; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:52:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=KsTHS3bpLwW4K7Ug2zE+u2jL5aI/uxw+Kg0dmU3jP64=; b=fNWkMwX0VdNfSJ42cOJA rYvrqJ9leh+zYvS56WAQDhiqxwoQvlXatom1AgqqCsWEfrEc9ZJrNP9Qk82AaAF8BsgSdDZv18MQP 32PNOctKcpAVlvTeqpD3l3/8PLr+FpCpKWkMKkPfhL+roCF2stCeBFXNIbpbjfXpwJzyMDxiFzC+h lvean0E9bwdvyKp9lRojHYEOecvXQ6VKwIrB7oZp5xSLJQJI+XUiG0mM5PHejZzIFdVNdZRpiqla5 geKBQwQYhGFTx7HvDTYckJeg6kIe+YpU6B6H1TA/lukvIrnmRoUiMnBMpjp1yjrLU+K3VgKwSk1Z8 CYiG9MLyn4LAeg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3613 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxUhY-0004vH-O9; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o85iqi7u.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:24:05 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282046 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:24:05 +0800 > > Óscar Fuentes writes: > > > Propietary modules can define any symbol, so the > > "this_module_is_fine_with_gnus" or whatever trick is used on Emacs and > > gcc modules is even less of a solution. I can foresee a propietary > > module playing that trick, but changing the name of the module and > > creating a name collision with some of the most popular modules out > > there is a bit too risky even for the most adventurous propietary > > vendor. > > Then as RMS said, we should remove the feature wholesale, until a > solution is found. You mean, also remove the loadable modules from GCC, GNU Make, Gawk, etc.?