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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What were the Emacs versions with dates limited to 1970 .. 2037 year range?
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 16:29:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wndku1y3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwva6ag9033.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:19:48 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,  yantar92@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:19:48 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii [2022-06-13 05:37:00] wrote:
> >> Come 2037, the systems with unfixed libc's will automatically become
> >> obsolete.  We won't have to do anything.
> > Emacs compiled with those obsolete libc versions can be moved to a
> > newer system, and will generally still continue working.
> 
> I don't think so, unless they come with two different `libc`s, in which
> case those applications using the newer `libc` might still work and
> those with the old `libc` won't, but even so users of such a system will
> presumably know that those programs using the old `libc` need to be run
> in a specialized environment with a bogus time or something like that.

You evidently think about systems where libc is a single shared
library, and the _only_ library used by Emacs where the 32-bit time_t
type is used.  Think more generally: what if some of what you consider
'libc' was linked statically into Emacs, and what if some of the other
libraries Emacs uses use 32-bit time type?

> The argument is that whatever happens to Emacs will also happen to ll
> other programs using that same `libc`

That is not necessarily so.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-12  9:13 What were the Emacs versions with dates limited to 1970 .. 2037 year range? Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:51   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 10:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-12 14:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13  0:30           ` Po Lu
2022-06-13  2:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13  9:25               ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-13 11:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 13:19               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-13 13:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-06-13 16:40                   ` Stefan Monnier

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