From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 16:50:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83wnb1bt96.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <8735dplo5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <834jy5d8hv.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilmllnd1.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36221"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 21 15:53:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPlOA-0009Dp-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 15:53:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45238 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPlO9-0007vJ-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:53:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPlLX-00069o-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:50:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPlLR-00044F-Jp; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:50:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+QOH1Q/IziAQybOrzm06pHzK3Cdbg51EuX477Y1mtcI=; b=EbUPZmqZeRR2 L0I3VNjBgH228SUuXxXAGaIJ5RkocBARDgVxjfKg7Ud6yJLRYLRUFmZiuFJHAd67TOyrdSGeJ+Q/g e7c1QXhY2pSVAEoab7CLwtF8zMLOhk+mX8NZJlvFUfbGVhjmFZ5d5YfR7+jbiS1cxxpF82HrAAeCq /q4WQXM4UrIqnZwUzFdqGLWclPq8RwvpQPSkJQEvu5XBSir7CTh9awtK/ydfVFlvjNBmQqyP4g9WJ tzuTR07GG8auLhrX8cjwb58+M2/uxX3fUGMayWjjE41JL7QSdh4/9GN3Px6UoKtywLOe3w7KmlMlf 8oxuu6dz3cbvTAxutPNtXg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2325 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPlLP-00075X-6Z; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:50:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ilmllnd1.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 15:47:38 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293708 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 15:47:38 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Maybe someone should take another look at a possible use of Qt? > > I haven't kept up with Qt development at all -- but at one point, using > Qt required using C++, I think. Is that still the case? Yes, AFAIK. But AFAIU it should be possible to call C++ functions from a C program, given enough glue. > (Not that that's necessarily a deal breaker.) Exactly. GCC already needs a C++ compiler to build, and so does GDB. I see no problem requiring that for Emacs, if it will otherwise free us from the GTK nightmares.