From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:56:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83wmwyseh8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837coytxs4.fsf@gnu.org> <9CC4510C-82B9-4947-89DC-3A22EAA39259@ryantate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25249"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ryan Tate Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 10 08:58:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qfEOj-0006IH-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 08:58:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfENr-0000rb-FN; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfENk-0000qh-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfENj-0000tB-80; Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:57:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=C5ygBlktSje6r+MRP4D38qkT8OUqm+l/GY7mUkgOhzI=; b=btp1uW5CoPhHkHgBIASt AdEpQnxZr+y/eqbfItguhUg6/C12x+skaLqZ9uxCX9Cf1YRsI7teBx5MT1xhgh74svjBBbM4Undnx c3Dj5BWYLdN8sKk2YpOqe4O3sW5Ece/ksmdb0fh8jbHISSpl3085hlc0GrrTsvdJklgMl29zWZQfH DMBSY5GU2cnte7/S5D5zcTXcRG7mwVINOgQ8i78kLJTpPln3SNVK6j04ckI66iP8oWjI26lmAGLgb fiPAC8A7VtmBn+clSHt1yiRGJbs2rEjL3iRgnEIFJLIe1lay2a1U+HvlfVgiph34S7xa7oQQ9HhQs XvXA3cBRGTFMiQ==; In-Reply-To: <9CC4510C-82B9-4947-89DC-3A22EAA39259@ryantate.com> (message from Ryan Tate on Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:07:13 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310434 Archived-At: > From: Ryan Tate > Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:07:13 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > On Sep 10, 2023, at 1:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Moreover, you revive this > > old thread with harsh and unkind words, reprimanding us for bringing > > up ideas(!) whose only intent is to make Emacs better. > > It was an idea to steal the name of a project You are again exaggerating, and you are again accusing people in crimes they didn't commit. No stealing is involved here, nor could be involved. > > Please in the future use kinder, more polite words when expressing > > opinions here, TIA. > > Did anyone here consider the feelings of bbatsov or Clojure users when proposing to trick us into installing a gnu package instead of the original? No one proposed that. You are misreading the suggestions in this thread. > Given the appalling orbat least _aggressive_ nature of what was proposed, you’re being a bit thin skinned. Once again, please don't use harsh words that we don't deserve. You are violating the acceptable behavior here, and you are doing this after being asked not to do so. > All that said, I am very grateful for emacs, and among the ways I have tried to show this is by contributing patches (well, one) and money to fsf. 🙏 thank you all for actions other than ones I wrote about You are welcome, but please tone down your posts about this.