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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native compilation on as default?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:44:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wmv9hoh8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1qvq5V-0002uL-Ib@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:27:09 -0400)

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:27:09 -0400
> 
> Building Emacs with native compilation is a lot more fragile
> than without.

I don't think I understand what you mean by "fragile".  It is slower,
but otherwise is stable and reliable.

> Meanwhile, many users don't need it because Emacs is fast enough for
> us without it.

If you don't have libgccjit installed, the default build will not
enable native compilation.  As libgccjit is an optional part of GCC
installation, people who don't care about native compilation should
not be bothered by this default (if we decide to make it the default).

> Theefore, we should not enable native compilation by default.

If the above is the only problem, I see no reason to reject the
proposal based on it alone, since the solution is easy and in most
cases effortless.  On the contrary, people who do want native
compilation should invest some effort into installing libgccjit that
matches their GCC version.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-26  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-08  8:44 Native compilation on as default? Andrea Corallo
2023-06-09 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-09 16:56   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-09 17:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25 14:11   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-25 14:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25 14:42       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-25 20:50         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-25 21:22           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-25 21:33             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-25 22:48               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-26  0:32                 ` Po Lu
2023-10-26  6:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  3:47               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-26  7:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  4:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20  9:41             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-20 12:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 22:21                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-21 10:39                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-21 10:38                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-26  2:27     ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-26  3:55       ` brickviking
2023-10-26  7:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  7:36         ` Colin Baxter
2023-10-26  9:41           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-26 12:07             ` Colin Baxter
2023-10-26 12:14               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-26 13:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-27  7:08                 ` Colin Baxter
2023-10-26 14:22               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-27 14:41                 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-10-26  6:44       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-02-29 10:56 Andrea Corallo
2024-02-29 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-29 15:07   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-29 16:26     ` Eli Zaretskii

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