From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [ELPA] New package: dired-duplicates Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2023 18:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83wmv18lpa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875y2nugm8.fsf@posteo.net> <87sf5qusml.fsf@web.de> <83y1fh8ojy.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 01 17:48:42 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qyEOY-0004Lp-38 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 17:48:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyENb-00073Z-SB; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyENY-00073D-FS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyENW-0000A8-Vh; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:47:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=akpAmU6J6zr3EJ5CcaUHm7DhFkG4ILBDIeQyinn8x7o=; b=TrwHNtJKnPexBnrML3hM DOKi5Or3uLBY3ebpGIyh5SBh+ObF4YGixCROWRN2/oZkoDsdTHe1Q2quVUad5SWjyIbRk4Hvjlqc+ m6+cXaAipsJKgos9CgjemREyiDEeiZ9NqJGxMNl4nQb0GPfL28C9Bm70bRaSr77gyfe6e+/eaJ/me OM+DjVCrbFYGxUQoxqXy3JSwGoQZMRjvmXqMxAhzh2Hx+ggp4J4jySQSOH6C6IBFknjwEyXXFHOKZ kLDoq2czJNKiXXoiEVXwc/rtBm+XwMgkLqVNnl5slSAAQf8Vxtus6O+UAmuJH9xozL8Q2gUqSVvMp knvehpyMid5vYA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 1 Nov 2023 16:28:40 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312076 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "michael_heerdegen@web.de" , > "emacs-devel@gnu.org" > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 16:28:40 +0000 > > > > > If a ‘defcustom’ does not specify any ‘:group’, the last group > > > > defined with ‘defgroup’ in the same file will be used. This way, > > > > most ‘defcustom’ do not need an explicit ‘:group’. > > > > > > All true. > > > But "not need" doesn't imply "shouldn't have". > > > > We decided that it means "shouldn't have". > > I wasn't aware that such a rigid decision had been made. We make a point of saying that in every patch review. > However, I don't see it in the Elisp manual. The ELisp manual documents the language, not our policy. But even it talks about that, in the part that was quoted. > Perhaps you should change the text quoted by Michael, > to make clear that you don't really mean (what most > people understand by) "do not need", but instead you > really mean "shouldn't have"? I don't see a need for such a change.