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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Handling invisible text in bidirectional display
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:37:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vdf1bxbg.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eilpzwrs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:15:35 +0100
> Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > This is another design decision I needed to make -- how to handle
> > invisible text in the display engine modified to support bidirectional
> > text.
> 
> I think a reasonable model is to display the text as if the invisible
> characters are not there.

I think the resulting change of the visual order will surprise the
users.  It also complicates implementation, which for me is an
important downside.

> Invisibility has other consequences except display, like what cursor
> positions it allows.

For now, I have only implemented strictly logical cursor motion.  That
is, when the next character in the logical (a.k.a. reading) order is
far away on display, C-f causes the cursor jumps to that place, then
subsequent C-f's cause it move to the left.  With this cursor motion,
invisible text in a bidi buffer behaves exactly like it does in Emacs
23.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-16 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-16 16:54 Handling invisible text in bidirectional display Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 18:43 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-16 20:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17  8:59     ` martin rudalics
2010-01-17 19:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18  8:11         ` martin rudalics
2010-01-18  9:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 10:39             ` martin rudalics
2010-01-18 12:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 19:15 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-16 20:37   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-01-17 16:05     ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-17 19:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17 20:17         ` David Kastrup
2010-01-17 20:39           ` Ehud Karni
2010-01-17 20:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18  6:42             ` David Kastrup
2010-01-18  8:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 19:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-16 20:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-17 16:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-17 18:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 11:56         ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-22 13:41       ` Bidi TODO (was: Handling invisible text in bidirectional display) Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 14:48         ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-01-18  1:27     ` Handling invisible text in bidirectional display Kenichi Handa
2010-01-18  4:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18  7:40         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-01-18  8:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-18 11:09             ` Kenichi Handa

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