From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What have the Romans done for us? (Bazaar) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:40:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83vdc5yhsd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20100405145637.GA3248@muc.de> <87mxxhhq3b.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270485749 29229 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2010 16:42:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 05 18:42:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NypMu-0007Eo-HK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:42:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NypMo-0003sr-A4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NypLY-0003Rs-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39091 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NypLW-0003R4-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:40:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NypLU-0003Cd-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:40:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:35808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NypLU-0003CM-IG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L0E00500WRO7500@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:40:12 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.92.42]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L0E002W3WYZAJ90@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:40:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87mxxhhq3b.fsf@red-bean.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123212 Archived-At: > From: Karl Fogel > Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:32:56 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Even updating one's repository takes many > >minutes, something which took only a few seconds with CVS. > > Yes. But remember: https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?107077 > (which is actively being worked on). Thanks. Any ETA? It's really annoying to wait 2-3 minutes each time I do a simple "bzr up", and similarly for "bzr ci" to the public repository. > >Worst of all is the lack of a proper fine manual; what there is is > >available only in html or "bzr help", neither of which is properly > >searchable; what there is is also bloated and vague and generally of > >low quality. > > ? http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/en/ points to plenty of downloadable > documentation, in HTML, CHM, and PDF formats. Well, yes, but the quality of the Bazaar docs leaves a lot to be desired. E.g., I just learned (through a question posted to the Bazaar list) that to fully revert a tree to a certain old revision, one needs to do a "bzr update -rNNN" rather than "bzr revert -rNNN". There's nothing about this important fact in the Bazaar User Reference Guide.