From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Intervals crash Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:07:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83vd5tqxyp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87aan82uar.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83bp7ouw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <87bp7n3c19.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83iq1vtv3y.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrqb1q2b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fwwztq4e.fsf@gnu.org> <87sk0x28pr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83y6aprehh.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbhd1wn4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285452448 18464 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2010 22:07:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 26 00:07:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozctx-0004xG-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:07:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53990 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ozcts-0004oj-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49965 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ozctk-0004o2-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozcte-0004ot-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozcte-0004oh-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L9B00B00PANPJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:07:04 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.230.38]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L9B00APMPFQO3K0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:07:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87hbhd1wn4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130885 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:54:55 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > And what makes you think I need a paternalistic lecture about > > demerits of unsigned data types? You already had your chance once, > > and I let it go. Why do you think I deserve it twice in a row? > > I don't think you deserve it. I think Emacs deserves the benefit of > XEmacs's experience, and you were rebutting with bogus claims about > what Emacs "needs". It would be a shame if that discourages others > from improving Emacs, that's all. How can I "rebut" theoretical arguments that are well known to every experienced C programmer? Who would object that in their right mind? You didn't say anything that would be practically applicable to the issue at hand. You are preaching to the choir. Did you even look at the Emacs sources, wrt to EMACS_UINT usage? Do you know how many times it is used? Or are you talking out of pure theory? I posted a specific issue with code fragments, which gave birth to this thread. If you can help understand what's going on there, it will be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, this conversation goes nowhere.