From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is intellisense features integration in Emacs technically possible? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:53:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83vbxcfzaa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1390269670.2888.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <83zjmpf80o.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390362778 24344 80.91.229.3 (22 Jan 2014 03:52:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 03:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 22 04:53:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5osD-0007kY-TQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 04:53:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33464 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5osD-0004W2-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52406) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5os4-0004Um-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5ory-0007KU-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:56226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5ory-0007ID-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:52:50 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZS00300AOVEV00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:52:49 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZS003XRAS0CQ30@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:52:48 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168864 Archived-At: > From: Tom > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:58:21 +0000 (UTC) > > Eli Zaretskii gnu.org> writes: > > > > > According to this logic something like the rewrite of the display > > engine that happened between Emacs 20 and Emacs 21, or bidirectional > > editing support for Emacs 24 would never have happened. But it did. > > Each one of these took many man-months of work. > > Yes, but I don't think their complexity is comparable to, for example, > the Java support of Eclipse which has been continously developed > for many years by a bunch of people. Repeating this effort is > no small feat. The Emacs display engine is many tens of thousands of C code plus many thousands of Lisp. I'm quite sure rewriting all that is more than would be needed for intellisense support. > > Look at the amount of changes that get committed every day to the > > Emacs repository, and try to estimate the effort that goes into that. > > Sometimes I wish I had such resources at my disposal on my daytime > > job. > > Yet, Emacs cannot provide the same level of language support like > other tools for Java and C++, so it is apparent the language support > part has not enough resources. Like I said: lack of motivation, not lack of resources.