From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 22:34:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83vav7xs1p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <721b8fb1-5672-778e-b68f-a68b53308f55@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480365314 27671 195.159.176.226 (28 Nov 2016 20:35:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 28 21:35:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSdp-0006Ni-Bp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:35:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSdt-0005OB-3n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46531) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSd4-0005O4-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:34:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBScz-0000q0-SU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:34:22 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBScz-0000pw-Oz; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3807 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cBScy-0007mD-Im; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:34:17 -0500 In-reply-to: <721b8fb1-5672-778e-b68f-a68b53308f55@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:13 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209694 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:13 -0800 > > On 11/28/2016 12:12 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I think this is a wrong direction > > If the proposed dumper works reliably and quickly and portably, Emacs > should be in a significantly better place than it is now. So in that > sense this is not the wrong direction. > > Perhaps you're right and making lread faster would work better. However, > nobody has implemented that. If someone does implement it we can switch > to it later, regardless of whether we use the proposed dumper in the > meantime. I'm not going to argue. If enough people think I'm mistaken and want to go the portable dumper way, I will resign right here and now. It is very easy to convince me to step down, because I hesitated to take this job to begin with. Your call, crowd.