From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:16:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83vajgh4xe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83po9vos4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87shelv2m6.fsf@udel.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508077068 31893 195.159.176.226 (15 Oct 2017 14:17:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 14:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rswgnu@gmail.com, radon.neon@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mark Oteiza Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 15 16:17:39 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jjK-0005O4-O6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 16:17:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57392 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jjR-0007ag-Uw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jin-0007Yh-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:16:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jii-0004Wa-M8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:16:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jii-0004WU-Ij; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4615 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e3jih-0008Ue-Un; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:16:48 -0400 In-reply-to: <87shelv2m6.fsf@udel.edu> (message from Mark Oteiza on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:30:41 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219546 Archived-At: > From: Mark Oteiza > Cc: rswgnu@gmail.com, radon.neon@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:30:41 -0400 > > > I think the proposed solution satisfies these requirements. The 2nd > > init file is only needed if you want to tweak package initialization > > by putting Lisp code into that 2nd file. > > Breaking the ability to do such tweaking with the init file we already > have is insane. I hope the "insane" part is a slight exaggeration... Anyway, AFAIU, that was the best/only solution that came up which would solve the original problem without causing more trouble to the uninitiated.