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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: dancol@dancol.org, tom@tromey.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp JIT Compiler
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 19:41:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83va8binu8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8e7e3aa-2651-5241-75f9-b9ed3995429a@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:38:44 -0700)

> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:38:44 -0700
> Cc: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 08/14/2018 02:03 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> > Randomly
> > varying the performance of loaded elisp code to such a degree depending on
> > the presence of various system tools is unacceptable
> 
> Are you're saying you'd rather have predictably bad performance, than 
> have an application that sometimes has the bad performance in some 
> situations, and 3x better performance in other situations?

I agree with Daniel here: having vastly different performance due to
factors more or less out of end-user's control is bad for UX.

That doesn't mean we want to have predictably bad performance, but it
does mean that we should choose our JIT library so that it doesn't
suffer from such issues.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-15 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-13  4:01 Emacs Lisp JIT Compiler Tom Tromey
2018-08-13  5:37 ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-13 15:15   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-14  0:16   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-14 20:11     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-08-14 20:55       ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-14 21:03         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-08-14 22:38           ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-15 16:41             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-08-15 17:16               ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-15 17:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16  0:29               ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-16 13:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16 15:43                   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-08-16 16:22                     ` Andreas Schwab
2018-08-19 18:17                     ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-19 19:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 19:16                         ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-19 20:23                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-18 10:10                   ` Steinar Bang
2018-08-18 11:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 10:00                       ` Robert Pluim
2018-08-19 15:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 15:26                   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-23  0:47                 ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-23 16:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 17:54                     ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-24 20:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 21:03                         ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-25  6:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 11:03                             ` Ergus
2018-09-10 11:15                               ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-10 11:53                                 ` Tom Tromey
2018-09-12 13:37                                   ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-13  4:32                                     ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-16  0:03   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-16  2:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-16 18:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-13 13:50 ` T.V Raman
2018-08-13 15:18   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-13 15:23     ` T.V Raman
2018-08-13 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-20 21:54   ` John Wiegley
2018-08-13 23:31 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-13 23:51   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-16  2:42     ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-15  0:21 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-16  0:32   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-16  2:14     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-11 17:37 Nickolas Lloyd
2016-12-12  6:07 ` John Wiegley
2016-12-12 11:51   ` Nickolas Lloyd
2016-12-12 16:45     ` John Wiegley
2016-12-23 17:22       ` Nickolas Lloyd
2016-12-13 22:24   ` Johan Bockgård
2016-12-05 18:16 Burton Samograd
2016-12-05 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-05 19:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-12-05 21:03   ` Burton Samograd
2016-12-06 15:54     ` Lluís

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