From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 21:17:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83va75gvc8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <770f48a8-664a-40ae-8e03-19f6aad248b6@default> <20180910181615.GA4829@ACM> <874lev3bq4.fsf@toy.adminart.net>> <<20180912131602.GA5582@ACM> <87d0tihxzw.fsf@toy.adminart.net>> <<20180913174640.GB4019@ACM> <8736udkuit.fsf@toy.adminart.net>> <<20180914104833.GA4103@ACM> <83k1nojgia.fsf@gnu.org>> <<874leq799e.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <205df9be-2e5c-4cc4-a13a-7c80eb63bedc@default> <87in363zgq.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87a7oh4mdm.fsf@toy.adminart.net>> <<831s9tidjc.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537121849 5687 195.159.176.226 (16 Sep 2018 18:17:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yurivkhan@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 16 20:17:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bbn-0001Lb-HT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:17:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59842 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bdt-0007LA-M5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:19:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53755) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bdk-0007L2-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bdj-0007LH-BY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bcX-0003a1-49; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4465 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g1bcU-000804-DE; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:18:09 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229858 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, yurivkhan@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, > drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > > > > The secondary selection doesn't have all these problems, > > > so it's a good example. > > > > The secondary selection can only be defined by mouse gestures. > > In vanilla Emacs, yes. But not if you use `second-sel.el'. > > You can define (set) it in several ways using the keyboard (suggested keys shown): > > * Start secondary with `C-x C-M-SPC' (`set-secondary-start'). > * End secondary with `C-x C-M-' (`secondary-save-then-kill'). Which ends the secondary at point position, something that was the main point of this discussion. Can you envision a way of setting a selection without the mouse, except when point is at one of the two ends of the selection?