From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 22:30:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83v9ku9x6p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <405FCFAB-30E4-4F98-81DA-3B09933E86D0@gnu.org> <83367ybe4u.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="52595"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 21:33:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaP26-000DYT-4x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 21:33:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50388 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaP25-0005BW-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaP01-00043q-4R for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaOzw-0003Yn-Qd; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1923 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jaOzI-0007X2-L0; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:30:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 17 May 2020 22:21:33 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250653 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 22:21:33 +0300 > Cc: rms@gnu.org, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > > On 17.05.2020 21:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > What happened here was something completely different. "Here's a new > > package, it does this and that." -- "Not sure we should have it in > > core, how about if you put it on ELPA for the time being?" > > Yes, we did say that. > > And then, we never went back to reconsider, to put any of such packages > into the core. That's not very relevant to the issue at hand. Let's not change the subject. > And we never got any complaints about that, either. Here I am, complaining. > So I'm saying it's generally a good thing for most packages, to be put > into ELPA instead. We didn't explain that outright (which is > suboptimal), but it seems like most submitters realized this afterward. Of course, you'd say that: you think packages should be on ELPA as a matter of principle. You also think we should take some of what is already in Emacs and put it on ELPA instead. I wouldn't expect a balanced opinion from you on this matter.