From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: on helm substantial differences - Re: [PATCH] Support "\n" in icomplete-separator Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: <83v9eaxxs4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837dqr27zs.fsf@gnu.org> <83361f22ah.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9fzlto.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1ozz22j.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb6zlgn.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ghe@sdf.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 12 18:59:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGsL-0007Nn-KC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:59:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGsK-0000Xq-MV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGrc-0008VC-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57240) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGrZ-0000Ms-B9; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:58:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4093 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGrX-0007B0-BF; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:58:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:49:18 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259097 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:49:18 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: ghe@sdf.org, rudalics@gmx.at, spacibba@aol.com, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > That separate window, as separate and important subject, is opened > during completion process is great feature and I hope icomplete will > adopt it. I very much doubt that icomplete will do it, because it goes against its design principles. > Helm completion does not complete in mini buffer. One can write > anything in the mini buffer so words are not expanding in the > minibuffer. Instead person is making choice in the separate window. I > hope you see that. Granted, I do see it, I just think that this is not the Emacs look-and-feel I'm accustomed to, this is utterly different. If you are lobbying for this to become the default, be prepared for an uphill battle, because it calls for a totally different typing methods, and I expect many old-timers to dislike the difference.