From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding major or popular language modes to Emacs distribution Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:58:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83v93pmx90.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875yvqa3qv.fsf@ypei.me> <87czpy1nyu.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfyuozmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o89hznqy.fsf@posteo.net> <831r6doepi.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsutzlon.fsf@posteo.net> <83wno5my3p.fsf@gnu.org> <888125D6-C89A-41F5-8C0F-B808830F9C61@thornhill.no> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2787"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, hi@ypei.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Theodor Thornhill Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 16:59:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzoA-0000XS-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:59:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57668 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJzo9-00052y-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:59:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJznX-0004MS-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJznX-0002aw-57; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1709 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJznW-00029y-Mv; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:59:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <888125D6-C89A-41F5-8C0F-B808830F9C61@thornhill.no> (message from Theodor Thornhill on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:45:49 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273315 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:45:49 +0200 > From: Theodor Thornhill > CC: hi@ypei.me > > > > On 28 August 2021 16:40:26 CEST, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> From: Philip Kaludercic > >> Cc: hi@ypei.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 14:30:16 +0000 > >> > >> > We should definitely make the PL modes more consistent wrt the basic > >> > key bindings. But having sch packages in ELPA doesn't help solving > >> > this problem, because it's an orthogonal issue, right? > >> > >> Yes, I was jut mentioning that if there ever were a push to include more > >> major modes in Emacs, that something like this might be worth > >> considering. > > > >To clarify, I was only talking about programming languages that are > >very popular -- I think Emacs should offer those OOTB. I didn't mean > >we should necessarily have in core every possible language under the > >sun. We could discuss the less popular ones on a case by case basis. > > > > Where does this line go? We recently added c# mode to elpa, and some people did not want it in core. I would classify that at a popular language Which languages constitute the popular ones is something open to debate, of course. It isn't carved in stone, and I don't think there are firm objective criteria for that. When there's no agreement, we'd need to discuss.