From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 16:10:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83v8qka0f8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgfxn6lt.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu65k9ec.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r119lnsd.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtbxlnf1.fsf@gnus.org> <87czctk890.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a67xlm9v.fsf@gnus.org> <87k070g6l0.fsf@yahoo.com> <8635do4u9b.fsf@gmail.com> <877d30g1az.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czcsfw4v.fsf@djcbsoftware.nl> <87mtbweaxj.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zgfwa1u6.fsf@gnu.org> <871qt8e8g1.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25251"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: djcb@djcbsoftware.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 15:14:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ7Fx-0006Sb-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52908 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ7Fw-00054F-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 09:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ7Cc-0008FW-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 09:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ7CZ-0007hq-O6; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 09:10:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MUtE0T1ayurNX5y9h2cDEGs4EbsKsgVJriSC9GpiZuU=; b=Aa1hkTtg4Vak puwMQ7s9614O8gZ1nEgYfitCm0F1xVBjiRRBmgesb7TFyMhuta11IZfebyps6ojrdw3LcuUtFWDwj XSzY0fah4pHp6y6dNeMwpcK5YB7ZTY+gYR2kgAfpwGdehrVPYV0gTakVQbtrAeuBc3izcQSOku5i9 V0kQvBliovDnj45dN+pDvyFBqTsVi1aENKHOOygYjsREsoYJTjTrXEUNDSXw+i9WtpJG0JkslrCvl Wy/tms2OQml2CChgcqqCZst+oF7K8E5HNG0CDOZ+RqjkAtHsv5jHHM3mWcccfu9bBDbyuUEDmEKGm tVwo936sv0lt23eXs+ioiQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4739 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ7CY-0003yg-NG; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 09:10:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871qt8e8g1.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:03:58 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293806 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: djcb@djcbsoftware.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:03:58 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What is your opinion on defaulting the GTK build to be without > > XInput2? > > It would mean leaving the default build without several features. Since > those features will be missing by default, most users will not know of > them, and they will end up not being useful. But since we are talking about making GTK not the default build, that should be okay, I think. > Which is why I think the default should be one of the Lucid, Motif, > or no tookit builds, which both provide those features and avoid the > crashes. I'm asking whether making GTK not the default build, and _also_ making the GTK build by default not use XInput2, sounds OK?