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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: esh-proc test failures
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 14:37:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8qj8a2y.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3107d06-4133-b1ee-ba24-e123f883ab9a@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:53:47 -0700)

> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:53:47 -0700
> 
> >> The only thing that really needs to happen here is that the signal is
> >> caught so it doesn't bubble up past this point and break things.
> > 
> > How do you accomplish that?  On MS-Windows there's no SIGPIPE signal,
> > for example.
> 
> If Eshell tries to write to a process object and it fails, it gets 
> treated as a broken pipe. Technically, it signals 'eshell-pipe-broken', 
> but that's roughly equivalent to SIGPIPE. This is mainly so that in a 
> pipeline like "foo | bar", if "bar" terminates, Eshell can inform "foo" 
> of the fact; on POSIX systems, it would send SIGPIPE, but on MS Windows, 
> it just calls 'delete-process'. This is important because we want to be 
> sure that if you have a pipeline like "yes | head", the "yes" gets 
> stopped once "head" is done.

So you basically assume that _any_ problem in the pipe was due to
SIGPIPE?  That could be too optimistic: it could be due to something
much more mundane and unrelated.

> > Not sure I understand completely what you are saying here, but AFAIR
> > writing to a closed pipe on MS-Windows will cause EINVAL errno.
> 
> Indeed, it would be nice if we could force things so that an MS Windows 
> program gets EINVAL for its WriteFile call, but because Eshell only 
> interacts indirectly with the program's output, it's too late to do that 
> by the time Eshell responds.

I don't think I follow.  When the write fails, we get an error and
propagate it all the way up to the caller.

> >> I could expand the comment to explain that this value is
> >> somewhat-arbitrary and just designed to match GNU/Linux.
> > 
> > Yes, please.
> 
> How does the attached look?

Looks OK, but are you sure about the "128" part? shouldn't it be 256
instead?  And perhaps explain why you add 128 (or whatever).

> Well, it depends on what we think users would expect. Currently, I don't 
> think Eshell provides the necessary functionality to tell when the 
> process "foo" fails (i.e. returns a non-zero exit status) in the 
> pipeline "foo | bar".

But we can do that, right?  The information about the exit status is
available to the SIGCHLD handler or a similar interface.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-23 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <166036758418.2203.8730240669199078524@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20220813051305.6667BC09BFE@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-08-14 18:06   ` esh-proc test failures Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-14 18:44     ` Jim Porter
2022-08-22 17:06       ` Jim Porter
2022-08-22 18:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 19:23           ` Jim Porter
2022-08-23  2:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-23  3:53               ` Jim Porter
2022-08-23 11:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-08-23 15:57                   ` Jim Porter
2022-08-23 16:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-23 16:38                       ` Jim Porter
2022-08-30  3:18                         ` Jim Porter
2022-08-30 16:51                           ` Jim Porter
2022-08-30 20:56                             ` Jim Porter
2022-08-31 20:52                               ` Jim Porter

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