From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:37:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87ilk1bgvd.fsf@posteo.net> <87edupbdp0.fsf@posteo.net> <875yg1bc02.fsf@posteo.net> <878rkxgpms.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfiyk3a2.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <838rkp4ptj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgd58i7y.fsf@posteo.net> <83k0492u5i.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8427"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 06 18:38:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1orjbE-00020E-Kb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:38:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orjap-0001SN-5C; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:37:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orjan-0001SB-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:37:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orjaf-0000DB-UC; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:37:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZJgjch5jnqPIHs4rTOg0+Ube+SpNOuuxamc/IJE3a5k=; b=Y+vLY0fHJkDS EHDUX6s4ppFIXa5hIyrSnPPst3lSIRIn7DGADwN42eRqxt6XLYLFX9dRjyo01uxt3h9EHXCszNSvO F+FBEb2ilb7uZJET0UYjmb2scVNii3kOXAfEiyBw6jl2h5BU1wKdWhoianMrS3AZX4bVIlfEBAgOl Yfmof7BrAIuRiHo2WgADaXTpD1UZe/ixvV/5/WBnqmiBqRqtgsjc5X2h39fuqyxhd4MFbg1cehdmI 8gdSZm6Rv3AckgIPu6U9A2vWek6H5dOvalY5dNDmtOkPXSOTvEnjzJ2kGvMwCPZMl5LsNJAs43ql8 RNGNe6dfZJNGZnre4g4sRA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orjae-0007Ai-PX; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:37:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:31:22 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299265 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:31:22 +0000 > > Let's say I notice a something I would want to change/add/fix in a > package I am using. find-function is just one way I would query Emacs > to open up the source, then make a few changes. If I decide that these > are worth up-streaming, it is nice to just commit them right away and > call `package-vc-prepare-patch' to send the maintainer an email. How many package users do that? And if you think many do, why not clone the repository directly into ~/.emacs.d/elpa/? > All of this would only apply to packages with external `:lisp-dir's, > which doesn't immediately interest a user/developer. Having to keep > this in mind would pointlessly expose an internal detail of package-vc > that I'd like to avoid. But it is us who introduced and support :lisp-dir. If we think it's a leaky abstraction, we could decide not to support it.