From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 22:09:06 +0200 Message-ID: <83v8k6fxy5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837cx8cey0.fsf@gnu.org> <83lell73yv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sffo3as7.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <83v8kkxzzx.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0v811pm.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87cz6nxdqy.fsf@X570GP> <83357irhnv.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttzy2lgi.fsf@X570GP> <83a61pprm8.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt5ncjuk.fsf@X570GP> <83cz6jm9mo.fsf@gnu.org> <87a61lkjb7.fsf@X570GP> <87pmahs9um.fsf@EBx360> <877cwoo6ru.fsf@X570GP> <83bkm0jxbr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttzq25m6.fsf@X570GP> <837cwmhlgs.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmae1wrs.fsf@X570GP> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13005"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: akrl@sdf.org, spwhitton@spwhitton.name, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org To: Aymeric Agon-Rambosson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 12 21:10:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pRIfs-0003BT-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:10:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRIfJ-0003NK-9j; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRIfG-0003Mq-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRIfG-0002eE-2A; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:09:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=k8GVaF7racnOGhKqoFOxCsTiKUAFvMdZDk+NuLZLoMo=; b=BFkldAF71xn0 dczLHq3cOk5xVlESwSj54Tj0o4lDJ/1jTpYn8OPF9Hmtk+a2FhlhoXNFi1bYAhSw1fYfiGsZT4ukL hM2wMlPL1UX7SLlOdAB66OsswZxeKRnSggxCFZnBHn5w8aXiKgH6fr/V6ubG6siKIEZxYg8KQx4o8 WjTx8ZiEMj1abITeg+6Bp2+S6+KQbzIBNvf/s+dbecDWvRWb+HZqMGqVmH+89AmONQPa08ERaxFXV 8T6DlHr/owITwlmnxl5ccdUWywEucIEHvjGIZR5CBHUZy5GJw6Uh4uiewCwlEzmFQHkiPFhCknGEo FKnm3x/LFmNWrl4/80KCPQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRIfF-0007r6-81; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:09:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87pmae1wrs.fsf@X570GP> (message from Aymeric Agon-Rambosson on Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:58:15 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303198 Archived-At: > From: Aymeric Agon-Rambosson > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, spwhitton@spwhitton.name, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:58:15 +0100 > > If we have to provide the location, we have to ensure the > directory exists. That has never been a problem. There's any number of ways to ensure that, whether from Emacs or outside it. > The current meaning of `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' is a > current "good" state that allowed a large number of build failures > to disappear But it caused trouble in other situations, and is very hard to support portably. Any code that removes a .eln file that is being used by the very Emacs session which removes it is building on non-portable assumptions. So I very much want to remove this part from Emacs.